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PHOENIX9 wrote:
>
> Hello, I'm a student in the market for a "real" 3D modelling package. By real
> I mean high-end and professional. I've sent mail to NewTek trying to get more
> information about thier Lightwave for the PC, but they have been slow in getting
> back to me, so I thought I'd try here.

ok

> From what I understand Lightwave 5.0 is being released this week at a
> convention. Is this true? or will it be a few more months before 5.0 gets to
> the shelves? Also for whatever version of Lightwave is out and current, does
> NewTek offer a discount to students who are buying thier product?

It is romoured that LW 5.0 will be at least unveiled this week.  I have no idea
about release dates.  NewTek is being real hush-hush this time.  4.0revC is the
most current release, but they don't offer discounts to individual students.  Your
school, however, can purchase multiple LW copies at a discount.

> Does or will Lightwave 5.0 have a better interface than 4.0? Does it run under
> Windows 3.11 (either one of them) or DOS? Does anyone have screenshots of
> either version they could post or e-mail to me? I've seen either demo versions
> or a large number of screen shots for the other programs I've been considering
> but the NewTek home page has only one rather small screen shot of a wireframe
> fish (I think it was a fish anyhow). I'd really like to at least SEE some of
> the program before I buy it. I've heard people say it's interface is impossible
> and others say it's the best thing they've ever seen. I guess most especially,
> is there a demo version around of any version that I could check out?

Lightwave's interface gets more and more functional with every new release, so I
would assume yes.  LW4.0 is a 32-bit app so it will run on Win3.11 w/ win32s but
not DOS.  If you would like to see what LW can do "just turn on your TV!".  No,
seriously Space: Above and Beyond and Babylon 5 are two examples of TV shows using
LW.  Maybe someone here can post some URLs with pix, but I can't think of any off
the top of my head.  As for the interface, I think it is very good.  Things like
this are so subjective, however.  No demo version, but if you know someone with a
Toaster, you could see if you could use the version that came with it.  That is how
I started with LW.

> Thanks for putting up with a lot of newbie questions.

No problem.

> Mark Slater
> [e-mail]

--

Bryant Reif
mailto:[e-mail]
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From: Sergio Moreno <[e-mail]>
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Subject: NewTek at NAB
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 18:12:46 +0200
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Some info found in the SGI NAB page:

"LightWave 3D - An all in one animation, rendering, and modeling package.
Lightwave supports realtime shading with OpenGL with NURBS modeling with
MetaNurbs. Lightwave 3D effects can be seen on Star Trek, Space Above and
Beyond, the Blue M&M commercials, and many other shows. "

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        Sergio Moreno        IBERNET (TTD)


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From: Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio
Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks.
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 12:31:13 -0400
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> Not at all.  I've done some of the worst animation ever seen on the TV screens
> of the world.  I've also done some good things.  My point wasn't about me, it
> was about Lightwave.  I meant that if "A" movies are willing to use it over MAX
> there must be *something* to it.

What "A" movies have used it for animation? Lord of Illusions was a big of a flop
in the theatres as was Johnny Mnemonic. Most companies still use in-house tools
just as much if not more than commercial tools. Even for Johnny Mnemonic they had
to write custom plug-ins to handle the cast depth of the cyberspace sequences.
Some big changes have occured to MAX to get it away from it's old stigma and make
it a better tool for the film/TV market. The tools used to match live action to
animation look incredible. it is better just to check out www.ktx.com to see for
yourself, make sure you have a JAVA compatible browser to get the full effect.

> One thing I must say again though in regard to
> which program has a better toolbook is that in the entire 2 1/2 seasons of
> seaQuest, all the Lightwave in ST:Voyager, 2 seasons of Hercules, 3(?) seasons
> of B5, and most of the current season of Space--well, actually EVERYTHING done
> with Lightwave up until around November '95 was done without one single plugin.
>  For many things plugins would have been nice, but the work _could_ be done
> without them.

I'll agree that LW 4.0 has more in the base package than 3DSr4. But that is
somthing I always liked about 3DS was that you could pick and choose from a
group of companies as to which features you wanted to have from whom. Right
now I think there are like 3 or 4 metaball modelers for 3DS. It is nice to have
that choice to pick the one that suites your needs. There are about a zillion
(ok maybe not that many) makers of particle plug-ins for 3DS, and many of them
do all sorts of different particle effects. MAX will have a lot thrown in,
including particles, and I'm sure LW 5.0 will match that and MAX 2.0 will
meet that challenge and back and forth. The nice thing about plug-ins is that
your package can expand without having to upgrade all the time. NewTek realized
this when they added plug-in support to LW.

Jeff

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> > And I didn't know Steven Speilberg was an expert in animation.
>
>         Who is Steven "Speilburg"?  Seriously, I think he knows what he's
> doing.  Or wasn't Jurassic Park enough for you?

Reply sent e-mail since this is getting silly and WAY off topic.

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Matt McClanahan wrote:
>
> Henri Smulders <[e-mail]> wrote: Don't get a Pentiu, 120; get a 75 and clock it up to 150 (or at least 100; 150 is very
>only succeeded once reliably; but I always try ;-)). I have clocked up p5-75 all the way to 150 without problems(That ONE was exceptional though!) . I'm currently running off of a P5-75 running RELIABLY at 100
Mhz.
> Then of course, there were a couple cases of clocking a p75 to p100+
> and getting unfrotunate results:)  Lesse, one melted through his case,
> singing the rug (And making quite a mess of liquid transistors) and
> one just internally fused and died :)  But hey, it's worth the speed,
> right? ;)
> Matt

    I don't know who told you that story; but it is bull! The way Intel processes it's chips is by first
testing them at the highest clock-rates. If the chip proves to work reliably it goes on the 166 (or is it
180 now?) heap if it doesmn't it gets tested at a lower speed. So Upclocking does just what Intel itself
does. Their yields are currently such that more than 90% of the recent chips run reliably at 120 Mhz. This
means that a current 75 chip has a more than 90% chance of being up-clocked. When a chip does not run
reliably at higher clock-speeds you just get a machine that crashes randomly. I've gotten Doo-Doo on my
harddisks because of the crashes; However it never physically damaged any computer part of mine. I am not
rich enough to screw around with stuff that could damage my PC; That would not be worth the speed. Since it
is not a money question; but more of a hassle question it is worth it.

Hajo

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hi, I just bought this CD that contains ton of lightwave objects. Only
problem is that I do not have Lightwave and do not intend to get a copy
of it. I was wondering if there was any freeware/shareware or another
graphics application on DOS/Windows 95/3.1/NT that can be used to view
the lightwave objects?

Much thanks,
Daniel.

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From: Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio
Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks.
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 12:41:56 -0400
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> The reason these other programs aren't used for a weekly series is
> because it's not cost effective to create content with them.  Alias,
> Wavefront, or even SoftImage NT are still a little too pricey in both
> software and hardware requierments to be viable options for series TV.
>
> LightWave has the correct performance to price ratio for such projects,
> hence the reason it's used so extensivley.
>
> BTW, how's that water render coming Jeff? ;)

True very true, I forget the name of the house, but the creators of reboot
seem to be doing a really good job of it. I am hoping a lot of people picked
up Softimage NT during the special deal when it was being sold as bundles.
It's really a nice program, and would bring a lot to the weekly TV market.
I think Kenetix is also really trying to promote this way with MAX too.

HAHAHAHA, I haven't tried doing any more water in a while. Busy working on a
desig  project with Apple and have not had time to play with 3DS :(  I think
I may do a little animated promotional piece for my design project and throw
in some water for you :)

Jeff

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From: Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks.
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 12:55:35 -0400
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Phillip Finch wrote:
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >On 4/14/96 5:01PM, in message <[e-mail]>, Steve
> ><[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >>  I just
> >> saw
> >> buggy4.jpg and it is better than anything I ever saw done with lightwave. I'm
> >> not saying lightwave's bad just that the artist who made this is brilliant.
> >>
> >> -Steve
>
> >So where is this buggy4.jpg I'd be VERY interested in seeing it.
>
> www.torcomp.com/3dmax.htm
>
> And while you're at it, check out "bluebay" just below it. Nice work.
>
> In six months, volumetric lighting and atmospheric fog will probably
> be to 3DS Max as lens flares are/were to LW. But for the time being,
> this really has a lot of impact.

I suggest everyone check out http:\\www.ktx.com
in the gallery they have MUCH nicer renderings than what is available
here.

Jeff

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> Well, all the axp's and sxp's from yost disks 1&2 come with it. that's $600
> worth of software for $500 upgrade.
> Second it allows people to make their own plugins for 3ds max.
> If some wiz-kid comes along and makes a great radiosity rendering engine, with
> raytracing etc. then ha can. Programing specs apparantely come with max.

Note to, from how Kenetix is talking, the renderer that ships with it will only
be the first of a few renderers that they create for MAX. I expect that they will
have out a raytrace renderer or a shaders based renderer for it soon after it ships.
Also check out character studio plug-in for MAX. This should get MAX up to speed
in competing with high end character animation tools that are available for
Softimage and PA.

Jeff

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> Lightwave's plugins are nowhere near as versetile as 3dsmax's.
> And, to all those saying lightwave is better than max for space shots I just saw
> buggy4.jpg and it is better than anything I ever saw done with lightwave. I'm
> not saying lightwave's bad just that the artist who made this is brilliant.

check out www.ktx.com. They have some other MAX renderings that are much nicer
than the buggy one.

Jeff

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From: Alex Wei <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Virtual Gallery:Sumbit Artwork!
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 13:22:59 -0500
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At the 40 Degrees North Virtual Gallery we are accepting cutting edge
graphics to include in our Gallery. The work can be Photoshop/painter etc,
3D, Shockwave, or Java. There is no fee for either side, this gallery is to
provide a source to view new and fresh ideas and cutting edge techniques.
The site has already begun to be promoted. Once the content is large enough,
a full ad campaign will begin. This  gives you an environment where
thousands of people will see your work.
please feel free to email with questions, ideas, or submissions.
http://vassun.vassar.edu/~alwei/gallery.htm

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From: [e-mail] (InstntGuts)
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Date: 15 Apr 1996 13:40:20 -0400
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Reviewing a beta copy of MAX that's dated "January 18" is like Car and
Driver reviewing an automobile by looking at a chassis, sans engine and
body panels. (And where did your friend get such an early beta, and if he
was part of the beta program, why didn't he have a more recent version?)

The latest version of 3D Studio MAX is one of the most stable R1 programs
I've seen.

-- Jon

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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: FS: Alpha Workstation has to GO :(
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 14:05:47 +500
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Hi all,
    Sorry to waste bandwidth. I posted this about 6 weeks back, and
since then two separate deals have come close and then fallen through.
    To summarize, my family is now expecting a new member, so I've got
to give up my beloved Alpha. It's a lower end machine, but perfect for the
hobbyist who wants a little more bang/buck.
    Since the new arrival is getting closer, I've lowered my asking
price and I'm also willing to bundle my Alpha Lightwave 4.0.
    To save bandwidth I will only respond to email. Please drop me a
line for full system specs.
    Thanks.
Zach
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Christopher Stewart)
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Subject: Re: Bones and human models...
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Jason Cahill ([e-mail]) wrote:
>I just recently purchased Fractal Design Poser (which I highly
>reccomend) for generating human models that I can use in
>Lightwave.  Does anybody know how to create a bones heirarchy
>(parent / child) so that as I move the bones my model doesn't
>look like an accident victum?
>
>How do I create two child bones off(left & right legs) to link
>with a parent torso bone?  If anyone has used bones on a human
>model successfully, could you list your bones heirarchy (preferably
>with motion limits)?  Thanks!
>
>Jason M. Cahill

     Check out the website in the tagline below. It's just a link to the
present address of the site (but set your bookmark there as it will be
moving, and finally getting the search engine upgrade ;-). Just do a search
for "bones" when you get there.

Christopher


                **********************************************
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      Soup      *     http://primordial.victoria.bc.ca/      *      WWW
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From: [e-mail] (Christopher Stewart)
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Subject: Re: Streak Lighting Effect on Logos
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Todd LeMoine ([e-mail]) wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to create the "logo
>emitting streaks of light effect".. where basically you have the logo
>with what would look like an extremely bright spotlight coming from
>behind it in a smokey room... but I don't want just the spotlight cone
>in a smokey room look.. I'm trying to get the bright streaks of light
>to come out from behind and through the holes in the logo.. I think
>you have probably all seen the effect I am trying to describe.. I just
>can't manage to get the streaks of light to appear as they should..
>hopefully this makes some sense.. any help is greatly appreciated.
>
>Todd LeMoine

     Inverse volumetric lighting. Kind of like a Star Trek shuttle craft
flying out of a sun? Yea, It's possible. You have to select the outside
points of the object based on the angle your light is placed at. create a
polygon based on these points and extrude in the desired direction. Make
this surface transparent and play with the colour until you get what you're
after. Here's the surface I've got on a logo flying out of the sun. I mean
the "beam" part.

colour: 9 10 20
Lum: 100
Diff: 0
Spec: 0
Refl: 0
Transp: Grid mapped with falloff to end. Value 75%, Thickness 1, I used a
        falloff of 10 on the z axis but your mileage will vary on this one.

Smoothing: on
Edge Transparency: on with a 2.5% threshold.


This should get you started, just play with it awhile with a damn big
lensflare in the background. It works....

Christopher



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From: [e-mail] (Sandy Meltzer)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.packages.lightwave,comp.graphics.misc,comp.graphics
Subject: Lightwave compared to other 3D packages...suggestions?
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I would appreciate some honest feedback about how Lightwave 3D
compares to other 3D packages available today....i.e. ease of use,
quality of rendering, general features, etc..  Is it worth the extra
cost for my applications?  Religion aside, would you buy it again?

I run a Pentium-based system under Win95/NT3.51 and use various
3D graphics packages as "tools" to create custom graphics for
clients...mostly static images to be used on Web sites and in print
advertising.   I mostly use trueSpace2, Visual Reality, and Extreme 3D
in conjunction with Photoshop, CorelDRAW, Freehand, Illustrator, and
Painter 4.  I don't expect to do much animation in the near future, I just
want to maximize the quality of my creations.  High-quality and easy
to use modeling tools are very important as well as an excellent
rendering engine.

I haven't used Lightwave and would appreciate any thoughts before I
spend a bunch of money.  NewTek told me today that Lightwave 5.0
would be relased this week (for PC) and would cost $1495.  Wasn't
4.0 just released??   Why a new version only weeks after the release
of the previous versions?  Problems?

Comments?  Suggestions?  Post or send email.  Thanks.


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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Best Setup for PVR?
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On Sun 14-Apr-1996  3:22p, Anthony Caviello wrote:
AC> [e-mail] (Dan Zimmerman) wrote:


AC> Where I work we beta tested several editing programs for
AC> perception/NT, including.  My preference was for a program called
AC> Video Action NT.  I think it has a superior interface, that's more
AC> editer friendly.  And the interface has a better lay out, a  much
AC> simpler cleaner design.

----------------
Do you know where I can go to get more info on this product, i.e. a web site
or something?...........thanx............md

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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On Sun 14-Apr-1996 11:17a, InstntGuts wrote:
I>         <Fine, as long as we don't have to hear about it HERE!  >8^)>

I> Agreed; let's kill these multi-thread postings. I can understand people
I> wanting comparisons between programs, before they make a large investment,
I> but starting these "X is better than Y" threads just p*sses off both
I> camps, and that's no fun.

I> If people want comparisons, they should send separate postings asking for
I> specific info on the particular software, and then INSIST that people
I> respond with private email.

I> -- Jon
-----------------
HaHaHaHa...Yah right! Like anyone would EVER do something that makes as much
sense as that....I'm sorry if I just had to bust out laughin, but this whole
news group is just FULL of all these type of people who insist on going on and
on and on about how thier program is better than someone elses program. I
personally am SICK of spending ALL my time having to read messages, just to
see that it's another stupid "mine's better then yours" subject. I think that
just today, I have only seen about maybe a half a dozen or so REAL LW related
topics. MOST! And I mean MOST of the messages now a days are all this crap
about 3Dmax and every other program on the face of the Earth. Who cares???
They all do something good and/or better then eachother. I think that I am
waering out the return button on my machine from having to hit it with So much
frequency............md

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Star field?
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On Sun 14-Apr-1996  5:25a, Brenden Mecleary  wrote:
B> In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mark
B> Dunakin) writes:
B> >
B> >Say does anyone know how you make that star field that is shaped like
B> >a big ball. I can make a ball of dots that is solid, but I don't see
B> >how they made a ball of dots that is hollow.........If some one knows
B> >how this was done I'd appreciate knowing what the scoop is. And if I
B> >figure it out I'll tell about
B> >it..........md

B> 1) Make a single point, then make that into a polygon. (a particle)

B> 2) Clone the particle to the desired # of stars for the entire panorama

B> 3) Run the jitter function on the particles (which should still LOOK
B> like one)

B> 4) Run the spherize macro on the scattered particles

B> 5) Surface and enjoy!
---------------
B> I realize that was a bit vague.  If you need a more detailed
B> description, let me know...

B>                                               Brenden Mecleary
B>                                               [e-mail]

thanx, I'll give it a try..........md

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From: Steph Greenberg <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio
Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks.
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[e-mail] wrote:
: On 4/14/96 10:55AM, in message <4kre5l$[e-mail]>, Steph
: Greenberg <[e-mail]> wrote:
: > impression that LW isn't professional. Outdated interface, lack of
: > certain features which are becomming standard, stubborn fanatical
: > adherence to polygons in the face of a patch or NURBS world; those are
: > the cues that put LW a notch down from MAX and SI.

: All I have to say about this is that if you haven't seen LW5 and don't know its
: features, DON'T compare LW4 to MAX.  That would be about as fair as comparing
: LW5 to 3DS4; should I do that?  Anyway, in what way is the interface outdated?
: Since when can something that is ergonomic get outdated?

And you think modeling in one program and animating in another is ergonomic.
Sure you can deal with it, but ergonomic? I think not.

As far as comparing LW4 to MAX. Autodesk previewed MAX for us, and then
installed a copy for evaluation on our NT machine (we paid for it).
We have 3 Lightwave users at our company, and we were not able to do the
same with LW5. In fact, we weren't told LW5 exists, and this is with good
contacts within Newtek.

Until the day LW5 can be had for evaluation, it is less available than MAX.
On May 1st, earlier actually, MAX will be officially available over the
counter. Then what excuse will you use?

: --
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From: Hugues Aubuchon <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: help me : AVI saving.......
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domenico marino wrote:
>
> please help me......
> Lightwave 4.0 c (an original copy......) can't save animations in AVI
> format.....
> I can't resolve this problem.......
> I have posted this question to NEWTEK but nothing......
> My configuration is :
> PC Pentium 133  32 Mb ram
> 4 Gb HD Barracuda
> 1.2 Gb HD Quantum
> Fast F/p 60
> Windows 95.....
> Is there this problem in a Windows NT configuration ?
> please help me....
>
> P.S. excuse me for my englis... is terrible...
>
> Marino Domenico
> e-mail :[e-mail] had the same problem also. When lightwave installs, it overwrites some
of the .dll (like avifil32.dll). Check this file and all othe AVI
related drivers in your windows/system directory by right-clicking the
file, going into property clicking the VERSION tab to see if you have
the NT or win95 version.

When I replaced this file with the original from win95 , it started to
work

Note, it only works with avi32 format not the avi16.

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Star field?
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On Sun 14-Apr-1996 11:55p, Kip Pesuti wrote:
KP> >Say does anyone know how you make that star field that is shaped like a
KP> big
KP> >ball. I can make a ball of dots that is solid, but I don't see how they
KP> made
KP> >a ball of dots that is hollow.........If some one knows how this was done
KP> I'd
KP> >appreciate knowing what the scoop is. And if I figure it out I'll tell
KP> about
KP> >it..........md

KP> You could make a giant sphere with a ba-zillion segments and sides. Then
KP> cut
KP> the polys away (k), and save the points as single-point polys. If you're
KP> using
KP> an Amiga, you could use the points2polys or points2particles Arexx macros.
KP> Repeat a few times, varying the size of (and the number of points in) the
KP> spheres.
KP> Rotate the spheres, randomly. You sould have an empty, hollow void in the
KP> middle.

KP>  God bless you!
KP> (and your Amiga)
KP> -Kip

KP> PS: If you don't have an Amiga, then God bless you, anyway! ;)
--------------
Thanx, this sounds pretty good. I had actually thought of this too. I just
wasn't sure about which way to do things..........md

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I have a little problem. I am making a telefon receiver in lightwave
modeler and a have made it from a box then i have use boolean first one from
the front and then one from the top. It is perfect but now i want soft corners
too. I have tried metamorf and soft but it is not helping much and i have
tried more booleans but it is a hard way to work. can somebody tell me
a better way.

please send a e-mail to

[e-mail]

Thanx in advance


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From: [e-mail] (Tim Krego)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio
Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks.
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On Sun, 14 Apr 96 23:44:40 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:
>So where is this buggy4.jpg I'd be VERY interested in seeing it.  (I'm assuming
>that's not it above)

Don't bother. Buggy4.jpg is nothing special and doesn't show the true
quality of MAX. I've seen much more realistic renders from LW, 3DS,
and MAX.

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From: [e-mail] (Chewie8625)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: lha to lwo?
Date: 15 Apr 1996 16:32:51 -0400
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Hi, this is probably a really newbie question, but I came across a lha
object that I want to take a look at and I am assuming that this is the
old naming structure from the Amiga. My question is, is there a utility to
convert it to a lwo or some other such object that can be read by LW
intel? Thanks
-Emile Edwin Smith
-An about to graduate student in Visual Arts
-Need a janitor?

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Subject: lha to lwo?
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Pardon my ignorance, I figured it out on my own 2 minutes after I posted
the question.
-Emile Edwin Smith
-An about to graduate student in Visual Arts
-Need a janitor?

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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave crack wanted... (flame on)
Date: 15 Apr 1996 19:29:25 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>Before everyone starts flaming my subject line, hear me out.  I am a
>legitimate user and OWNER of NewTek's Lightwave 4.0C for Windows (and
>I have a valid Serial Number on my Dongle too).  This morning, however,
>my dongle died (AND THIS IS THE SECOND TIME GOD DAMMIT).  I am sick of
>this bullshit.  I spent $800 on a product that self-destructs, and also
>prohibits me from using my printer.

Maybe put the dongle on a second parallel port, I'd guess
that your printer is killing the dongle.   Buy a $30-or-less
add-on serial/parallel board.

- John


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In article <4kp1fg$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Since this newsgroup has gone from alt.newtek.bash.bash.bash to
>alt.3DStudioMax.vs.Lightwave, I figured it'd be a good time to repost this
>newsgroup's charter in hopes we can stop the insanity and massive cross-posts
>on topics not relating to LightWave3D.

Stop the Insanity?  Susan Powter, please call your office.

Or maybe we should fragment into any one of the following newsgroups:

    alt.stranahan
    alt.newtek.vs.play
    alt.newtek.recovery
    alt.religion.3d

- John


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I have a question.  We need to do an animation that consists of animating liquids.  Is there a special
program/plug-in, or is there a tip someone can give me?

Thanks a lot.

Matt Crystal
[e-mail]

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Hi everybody,

    My New Homepage is up:

http://www.isisnet.com/field/Profile.html

note that 'P' is capitalized. The pages contain not only some
Lightwave stills, but also photos, drawings, video stills, and cg
paint.

    Please feel free to drop by and comment.

        Cheers,

            Ken Mayfield.

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From: [e-mail] (Jeffery S. Jones)
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On 15-Apr-96 18:06:49, Sandy Meltzer <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I would appreciate some honest feedback about how Lightwave 3D
>compares to other 3D packages available today....i.e. ease of use,
>quality of rendering, general features, etc..  Is it worth the extra
>cost for my applications?  Religion aside, would you buy it again?

  It might depend on your applications, but I use it for video animations,
production for local TV/ads/etc., and would absolutely buy it again.  It is
easy to use, produces great results, has tons of features, etc.

>I run a Pentium-based system under Win95/NT3.51 and use various
>3D graphics packages as "tools" to create custom graphics for
>clients...mostly static images to be used on Web sites and in print
>advertising.   I mostly use trueSpace2, Visual Reality, and Extreme 3D
>in conjunction with Photoshop, CorelDRAW, Freehand, Illustrator, and
>Painter 4.  I don't expect to do much animation in the near future, I just
>want to maximize the quality of my creations.  High-quality and easy
>to use modeling tools are very important as well as an excellent
>rendering engine.

  Lightwave should do very well in all of these areas.  It is designed for
animation work, but animation is a series of still pictures :)

>I haven't used Lightwave and would appreciate any thoughts before I
>spend a bunch of money.  NewTek told me today that Lightwave 5.0
>would be relased this week (for PC) and would cost $1495.  Wasn't
>4.0 just released??   Why a new version only weeks after the release
>of the previous versions?  Problems?

  Version 4.0 is the first NT version, and is primarily simply a port of version
3.5 Amiga.  New features weren't the big issue in 4.0, reliable conversion was.
5.0 can be released so quickly because development on features didn't stop
during the conversion process.


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I always wonder if a dual CPU computer with a 3D
OpenGL graphic acc. card will actually speed up the
performance of LW. Much straight forward, I wonder
if LW support multiple CPUs PC and OpenGL (probably
not for this one) or other 3D APIs.

I ask this 'cuz I am considering upgrade one of my
computers (or even buy a new one instead of
upgrading). Thanks.


LSam
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Subject: LW snubbed again!
Date: 15 Apr 1996 22:56:06 GMT
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Once again, in the latest PC Computing magazine,
Lightwave is totally ignored.

The article covers the "best" 3D software/hardware for
beginners to experts.  Of course it lists everything